New York San Francisco
Post by iconPost by hardy2 | 2020-07-31 | 08:23:04

Will there be the New York San Francisco race?

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Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-07-31 | 16:33:05
This is the last year setup.

http://zezo.org/nysf/chart.pl

But the current boat is still unknown.

Post by iconPost by hardy2 | 2020-07-31 | 16:42:59
ok thank you, maybe a maxi trimaran.
Post by iconPost by YourMomSA | 2020-08-01 | 00:13:02
It's a monohull maxi 100.

About 10% slower than last year's crewed maxi trimaran in winds less than 20 kts, and then much slower in higher winds.

The event indeed closes after 65 days, and it will be difficult to finish a run in under 33 days in this boat. So... it will be unlikely to finish two runs, and even if it's possible, you'll have to start the second run immediately after finishing the first, without waiting for good timing. So the smart strategy is to wait as much as a month to find a start you're happy with (but probably start by the end of August). OR, plan that you'll hit the "return to port" button and pay 1,000 credits to do so, if your first attempt doesn't look good.

I'll probably start soon anyway, just to see if I can finish two runs. I'm weird that way.

Edit: Nope. Can't make myself click the "Start" button. Not in 2 kts when it'll be a lot better by Sunday. I'll be kicking myself if the guys who slog out a tough start get a great ride up the Pacific in two weeks, but I'm gonna wait. It means two finishes will be almost impossible, but so be it.
Post by iconPost by SlyStarLeRetour | 2020-08-01 | 01:14:42
let's try to "click on the start button":) but i agree 2 knots is not fun at all... Have a good race though
Post by iconPost by YourMomSA | 2020-08-02 | 18:01:57
Cvetan, a minor suggestion... When one clicks on a time in the predicted times table, the default destination is SF... so to get a useable routing, you then have to tell it to go to Pedras or Horn. Could you please make Pedras or Horn the default destination?
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2020-08-03 | 09:48:45
Thanks. Fixed.
Post by iconPost by UUnet | 2020-08-04 | 22:06:59
Thx cvetan.
Post by iconPost by Pimpi | 2020-08-02 | 18:21:48
Guys, many thanks for your comments/suggestions! It was very useful to read them! I would like to have two rounds. Thus, "I clicked on the start button" but, with 8 knots! ;) I think that I'll pay 1.000 credits if there will be better conditions. Let's see!

Post by iconPost by YourMomSA | 2020-08-12 | 15:12:59
Funny... the equator gate isn't actually exactly on the equator. I don't recall that happening before. The Brazil end is just north and the Africa end is just south. Not important, just confusing to see the line turn green while my coordinates still say N.

A lot of boats set fast times to the equator be sailing to the Western end of the gate... We won't really know who's doing well until Cape Horn. So NZ-Eligo has a few good boats with him and seems to be the leader of that pack. If they run into a wall and I catch up, that'll be good for me, but better for CocoNeuil who started an hour before me but has almost caught me.

Of course, this'll probably be won by someone who starts alone at a time when the routing to the equator isn't particularly good, who then gets great weather in the Pacific. No way to predict the second half of this race in advance.

Post by iconPost by UUnet | 2020-08-13 | 11:45:11
+1
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2020-08-12 | 17:31:08
My analysis reached the same conclusion. I see NZ-Eligo as the true leader.

Having the ranking gate as they did really distorts things. All those boats who crossed on the west end will be no where in sight come Pedras.

Now I'm trying to figure out how you slipped ahead of me YM.
Post by iconPost by YourMomSA | 2020-08-12 | 19:59:46
I'm going to group these by start time, and sort them by Equator rank within each group, with their UTC start time listed.

Group 1: Immediate starters
Vario24 8/1 00:04
Fransou 8/1 00:02
argo 8/1 00:02
Fouras_17 8/1 00:03
BleuTiger 8/1 00:03

Group 2: Isaias Early
dany51 8/2 20:00
Brasserie_Goudale 8/2 20:00
LUKALIZ 8/2 20:09
Aigle-Vert 8/2 19:22
Mavala 8/2 20:07
Vicvol 8/2 16:12

Group 3: Isaias Late
NZ-Eligo 8/2 21:39
zapple 8/2 22:25
RouteD13 8/2 20:49
Colin767 8/2 21:00
jakoufr 8/2 21:00
Phil o Soph 8/2 21:12

Group 4: Isaias Later
AUS DF2 8/2 23:29
CocoNeuil 8/3 01:02
Your Mom SA 8/3 00:02
HossegorOcean40 8/3 07:00
Furious49 8/2 23:00
pier123 8/3 02:40
BooBill 8/2 23:56

My read on this is...
-If Group 1 gets good conditions later and sails away, all five of those boats have a good shot.
-The leaders of Group 3 have nearly caught all of Group 2. Group 2 still looks fine for strong overall ranks, but Group 3 looks stronger for the overall lead.
-But... The best for the overall lead is AUS DF2 from Group 4. He has caught some of Groups 2 and 3 and is way ahead of everyone else in Group 4. zapple is also contending to do the same, with the latest start in Group 3.
-If Groups 2 and 3 run into slow conditions and Group 4 catches up to them, then CocoNeuil looks very good.

Until of course a later group comes along and puts all of the above boats into 600+th place.








Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2020-08-12 | 20:40:16
Thanks for that. Keeping an eye on TD Eleven. Producing some very good start predictions for next Tuesday if it stays out to sea.

What happened to Sly? He was running at the front of group 1 as usual, but appears to have closed his account again.
Post by iconPost by YourMomSA | 2020-08-12 | 21:12:10
I think he closed his account. He's done it at least once before. Changed his name to Guest and signed off. His Europa boat was going pretty well and went aground.
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2020-08-12 | 21:54:54
I think if you delete your account your boat name changes to random Guest number and keeps on sailing. If you have any sense of humor change it to Mary Celeste before disappearing.

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