Post by iconPost by Mullionman | 2018-05-15 | 06:41:51

Cvetan,

With your knowledge of how the game works with Game and Client servers. Do you think that VR would be able to create the Golden Globe race starting on July 1st? The race is the same as for the first solo circumnavigation 50 years ago.

The real boat rules are that they have only instruments from 50 years ago. So no GPS or routing.The boats are mainly Rustler 36.
The game route should include the gates that the real boats have to use.

You cannot hide routing software such as yours from gamers; but if VR did not use gadgets such as foils and extra sails. Only gave out positions every 12 hours and you limited routing advice to 24 hours, could it work?

Regards
Dave


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Post by iconPost by zezo | 2018-05-15 | 08:50:43
That would be entirely different game, especially the "No GPS" part. If the game has to know one thing, it's your current position.

Post by iconPost by Mullionman | 2018-05-15 | 12:27:31
I was just wondering if the game could be changed to incorporate DR position. But I agree that would have to include leeway, current and even an error in course accuracy. Not something that computers like. I also think that VR would not like a race that could last over 300 days.
But for the real racers I have huge respect.
Post by iconPost by JohnT | 2018-05-15 | 14:46:20
I think there are still more than a few older sailors out there who are quite capable of navigating you around the world a lot more accurately than DR. they would need a good sextant, reduction tables, a chronometer and a set of paper charts (including routing charts). The wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextant suggests achievable accuracy of 0.25NM. (Definitely much better than I ever achieved!)
A great example of the practical challenge of navigating with a sextant on a small boat is Ernest Shackleton's voyage from Elephant Island to S. Georgia, which was repeated a few years ago by Paul Larsen: http://www.wavetrain.net/news-a-views/566-chasing-shackleton-what-paul-larsen-did-after-breaking-the-sailing-speed-record

Post by iconPost by Mullionman | 2018-05-15 | 17:17:53
That's exactly what they are doing in the Golden Globe. Sextant and paper charts. No electronic aids. A hand written log. An HF radio. No water maker. A towed log. Only a wind up chronometer. Not even a digital camera (they have to use film). I think the youngest skipper is Susie Goodall (28). And all in a boat between 32 and 36 Feet designed before 1988. They do have a sat phone for once a week safety calls and a portable GPS in a sealed box (disqualified if seal is broken).
My suggestion for the game was to have 12 hour accurate positions from VR but then you have to DR on. A sextant reading in a computer game would be too difficult for most.
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Game appears stuck on 00Z weather from yesterday
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Sydney to Auckland
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Personal Message pages deleted
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New zezo fonction
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VR Ranking 2021
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Autosail malfunction
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Comments from a newbie to "long term" routing
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Massive thanks to Cvetan
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Fleet section mode record not working
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Possible routes on the Map tab
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Purple skippers on VR Dashboard
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UTC or CET time ?
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multiple routes?
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Real Sail
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Map a little gloomy
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Trophée Jules Verne - Route à l'envers ?
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Looks like weather updates offline for next 18h
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Bring the good old days back
7
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All.grib 0.0k ?
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different speed
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Strange 0.5 mille VR Scale
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Just an idea for a new feature...
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Connexion impossible
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Donations
7
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New leader - seems to be using Zezo
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Bravo Zezo
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zezo : Huge job - Huge thx
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Difference between boat speed display on VR, dashboard and polar curves
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Vendée Globe: Track lines falling too short of ischrones
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Tara Ocean
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VR winds currently not up to date ?
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"Sails Change" within the Programming
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RORC Transat finish moved to Antigua
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Weather update not appearing...
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Dashboard not updating.
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Boats Skins Vendée Globe
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Safari on iOS: Bearing lines gone
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Wrong coordinates in zezo
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Winds in the chart do not show changes between 78 hours and 114 hours forecast
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Decoding of All grib
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I CANNOT ENTER FOR 3 HOURS IN THE GAME
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Why the vc data is yellow underlined ?
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Jules Verne 2020 - "Start NOW" discrepancy VS real time
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Would like to know the reasenable time to update your pisition on zezo
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Arrival Vendée Globe in Normandy !!?
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MIssing the Obvious: How to get Zezo routes back into VR
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VG 2020-01-02 has Zezo a problem with geographic or ...
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How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...
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Track duration window
3
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Ways to bypass the client to give orders?
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Problem to Load zero route in windy.com
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French tutorial for zezo
4
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boat positioning
2
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Export routes in GPX format ?
4
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Sail selection issue ?
11
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Your friends boats in Google Earth
2
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Delay in Wind update ?N
1
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VR Dashboard
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Colone Tile red
3
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Destination setting - Fixer la destination
2
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Anyone else experiencing erratic course changing behavior?
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Looks like game winds not updating.
6
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difference between wind on he map and wind on the route
8
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Cape Horn route is not possible it is crossing land
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Lost the lines..
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all.grb question
3
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2 routings ?
1
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What point or line is being used to determine the rankings?
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180 degree bug and downwind track
11
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démarrer avec zezo au milieu de la course
2
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Local times in the charts
1
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red and green lines ahead of isochrones
13
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20 Minute tack
6
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nemo point challenge problem
8
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Nemo Point Challenge
51
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Point Nemoers
1
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Route doesn't give prediction over 24h anymore
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Iterations on server & Zezo
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Sidney-Hobart 2020
3
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To day zezo don’t give me any route
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Fatal Grib error tonight ?
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predicted times JV
3
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Loick Peyron uses zezo, the best virtual sailing router ;)
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Orthodromy vs loxodromy around the poles
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Strange 1st dot heading
3
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Campbell Island
4
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VR bugs and rants
11
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Cap constant, ou angle au vent ? Constant heading, or wind angle?
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Colors of wind in the chart
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