Zezo forum:

Post by DeepBrine | 2017-12-13 | 11:03:21

I see :
Marcusbelgicus
Your Mom SA
Kluck

freaking VR is not letting me see anyone else in the area.

Feel free to add to this. Looking for folks within say 5 nm of the lead of the North Group.

56 Comments

Post by nsp | 2017-12-13 | 11:07:03

evryone is leader in North group...lol

Post by Sir_Petrus | 2017-12-13 | 11:46:25

Is there a Southern group?

Post by SYSeaSick | 2017-12-13 | 12:00:50

SY SeaSick
Velomaster SWE
Roggan
NYDK
XC Race
AquaJoy
Tesan
Toppen
Nessalg

Post by HKG1203 | 2017-12-13 | 12:05:09

Before i Gybed out sideshow was best positioned IMO. now there is a split so its kind of hard to say whos best untill everyone converges again.

Post by zezo | 2017-12-13 | 12:32:03

Charlie2010

Post by HKG1203 | 2017-12-13 | 12:40:57

oh wow he looks very good

Post by MichelleWhy | 2017-12-13 | 15:00:06

When I zoom out far enough, I'm always in front :D

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-13 | 16:51:44

I'm a couple of nm behind the North Group leaders. Not bad for an NMS sailor with all options, but limited on programming ;)

25 kts, Melbourne here we come

Post by Bitcoin | 2017-12-13 | 17:35:07

Tessa94 and Tame Bird

I'm 10 nm south of the group trying to join

Post by zezo | 2017-12-14 | 07:09:35

Well done ;-)

Post by nsp | 2017-12-13 | 18:17:08

Big Bird @ zezo.org..... he wished to go unnoticed...lol

Post by nsp | 2017-12-13 | 18:21:24

And a good old sailor from the beggining of VR used to navigate in te old "6D2" now on helm of "Seaside" trying to recover from a not so great position..a little bit like RQ- Naos in leg 2 :))))

Post by zezo | 2017-12-13 | 18:24:17

ghostbusterTPN may also be hanging around, but is currently in stealth mode.

Post by nsp | 2017-12-13 | 18:55:38

currently? he is stealthing from minute one

Post by kluck | 2017-12-13 | 19:00:55

I can also see these near by:
La_semmilante TPN
Nilhos_1
iona29
Katten-46 SWE
Uffe F
Dersu 14

Slightly north:
Rostef
Thorsholm

>5M behind
Misil208_1
Raketa

Post by nsp | 2017-12-13 | 19:06:15

And Nicobaiona and Cobra Pourpre 1st and second in RORC as to Nauplius the 3rd in RORC, is doing an interesting route.

Post by kewcom | 2017-12-13 | 19:10:31

I'm thereabouts too...

Post by Luiz | 2017-12-13 | 19:13:37

5 Nm SW of Zezo's Big Bird. Can't find anyone on my starboard (near, of course). Just these guys mentioned above (at north)... Boat Mizaza 1.

Regards, Luiz

Post by WaterHammer | 2017-12-13 | 19:56:09

USS Ferroluis

Post by Peppe | 2017-12-13 | 19:21:53

Peppe is doing pretty good in my opinion!;)

Post by NYDK | 2017-12-14 | 14:53:30

There is one boat in North a long bit longer north to the other group comming fast "Ice cool"

Post by Lasse | 2017-12-16 | 01:40:53

A few hours ago I was on the 9:th place but now I'm loosing places because I went (maybe) a little far to north.

/Lasse boat name n'Lasse

Post by nsp | 2017-12-16 | 02:34:36

North group will be a roller coaster of leading till late in the leg, a LOT of the boats can get if wanted to number one for a bit..even for a bit.

Simply that's not the point... :)

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 12:10:39

last night a split occurred in the nroth group. those that suddenly appear in the lead are even further north

the north north part of the group containsToppen, Tessa94, Marcusbelgicus, Charlie2010, tame bird, sideshow and VSR-leader KLM2235

in the south part of the north group there is even less wind at the moment with BigBird, Swedesailor, YourMom SA, MacAll and myself

looks like it's gonna be tough in the last group for the next 18-24 hours. any tactical options down there other than following zezo at heading 98 ?

Post by zezo | 2017-12-16 | 12:30:34

It's more like one long front without distinct groups. With ETA within 10 minutes of each other last time I checked.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 12:50:21

okay, I can only follow 20 or so boats :(

we will see in 5 days

can you see more with the positions you get from all boats using your router?

Post by zezo | 2017-12-16 | 13:01:54

I can, but I don't usually do it. And I don't have Boat name -> id mappings, so I can only see if there is someone out there but there is no way to see who it is.

Post by nsp | 2017-12-16 | 14:29:27

Indeed you are right as I see also its a front of more than 60 miles. In this moment anyone can win.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 15:09:09

as long as VR does not suddenly introduce an ice limit, like in the real race where they all have to go north because of the ice exclusion zone extension ;)

otherwise were in deep ice down south. you're much better positioned at the moment

Post by Swedesailor | 2017-12-16 | 15:55:18

Looks like a really close one at the end if things stay like this :P

I am carving a bit more south when the wind picks up a little.

Any dissapointing surprises in front of me down there ?

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 16:16:21

apart from the introduction of a sudden Ice Exclusing Range or a mastrail delamination, no ..

Post by MichelleWhy | 2017-12-16 | 13:40:42

I use positions given by the boats when you click on them and put them down to the router as a starting point. Doesn't look like there is an advantage for any of the boats for now.

I've been within close distance to the northern group yesterday morning, but then started sailing further south for a predicted lifting breeze. Not sure if that will pay out. Seems it is delayed until later tonight.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 14:23:05

yeah, that;s what Cvetan also did to tell there is 10 min. difference predicted at the finish line. too tight to call ;)

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-16 | 15:26:16

we're very nearby, also to Cvetan. But why is my mainsail reefed and none of the others around me, in 3D ?

Post by JohnT | 2017-12-17 | 00:18:30

I see the same thing (mine reefer and no-one else). Maybe theyw orry about the details for our own boat, and just have a generic (unreefed) image for any others..I
I'm assuming that a reefed main is probably not a bad call with over 25 knots, but they don't give us reefing as option to play with...and hopefully they won't!

Post by zezo | 2017-12-17 | 00:20:39

Reefing probably goes with the use of a heavy sail.

By design the current sails used by other boats are not visible to the world, hence the full main.

Post by Lasse | 2017-12-17 | 00:44:59

Mine is not reefed. And not kimigbg's either (the current leader).

And I have heavy sail now.

Post by CaptKAOS | 2017-12-16 | 19:06:40

I�m 2 nm just North of KLM 2235

Post by DeepBrine | 2017-12-17 | 05:00:21

Currently reefed with 28+ knots of wind and the heavy genny up.
I noticed the reefed main thing a day or two ago but figured it was just a graphics thing. My boat speed still matched the polars, as did boat speed of boats around me that did not have reefed mains.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-17 | 10:36:52

race leaders in the north are gybing and DTL is dropping ...

Post by WaterHammer | 2017-12-17 | 12:21:17

Distance to the real leaders is not dropping I'm afraid. ;-)

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-17 | 13:39:37

DTL is just a ranking by DTF in a straight (not really) line to the finish, like in the real VOR

for me it is now 13.6 nm (position 672), where it was 25.4 nm last night (1630) ...

Post by Sir_Petrus | 2017-12-17 | 14:00:33

Post by WaterHammer | 2017-12-17 | 14:21:36

Thank you for the explanation. I was referring to hidden ones straight in front of us on our line or slightly below. Also the group 1 hour north of us may be eagerly waiting to gybe on top of us if the wind heads a bit more. That chance will be in about 1-2 hours from now, as later the wind will veer again.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-17 | 14:33:14

The hidden ones are in the ranking by DTL. So if they loose ground to us in the same way the other leaders do, they probably hang out in the same area at the current leaders.

you're a mile ahead of me, very near

Post by WaterHammer | 2017-12-17 | 14:25:10

I've now found Your mom SA dead in front of me.

Post by bndtrm2611 | 2017-12-17 | 16:25:25

Check the weather pressure systems for the next three days and you will see the disadvantage of the north group. Wind speeds are not significantly different but TWA does not favor lower angles to the North position. The next opportunity for gain will be the lift to the South group then roll overt he pressure circulation for the run the the finish.

Now it's all about the best angle.

Post by WaterHammer | 2017-12-17 | 16:48:26

I hope my c0 will be sufficient for the whole run (did not invest in heavy and light sails).

Post by zezo | 2017-12-17 | 18:07:58

My no money boat (foils + c0 + winches) is just 10 miles behind the leader.

Post by DancingBrave | 2017-12-17 | 18:25:26

This prolonged C0 stretch has enabled me to keep my noMoneyBoat* up there too however I think the likely LightGennaker favoured run-in to Melbourne will do for us :(

*winches-foils-polish-c0

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-17 | 20:14:48

used a heavy gen mostly the last couple of days, but it did not bring much compare to you guys on C0

Post by Inicio | 2017-12-17 | 20:09:43

Alina (Foils+C0+W&P) is 8 miles behind the leader (after 2 hours at 90� TWA a few days ago by a mistake)
Zezo's power!

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-18 | 23:41:48

clear split now, between those who gybed and those who didn't, at least from my view with the boats I'm following

wind direction seems to be the same (249/250), wazzup?

Post by bndtrm2611 | 2017-12-19 | 19:49:49

The north group is doing the lemming thing....like one design...the south group is lookeing at the header and to capture the low pressure system. The north group will have to dive down hard to capture the low pressure..

It's all about the angles.

Post by nsp | 2017-12-20 | 00:40:52

dive?

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-20 | 08:40:40

dive indeed? how far north are they?

clear convergence towards the line going on